Need some info

[rastan saga]

How can I add a patch file into a mdf-mds image ( for UBIK ) without remove CDA tracks? I want do this then burn that new opened image to a physical CD and play the game on my DVD-ROM with CD audio tracks ( ... and no need Daemon ).

Can I use Nero for this operation or what kind of tool required? Please someone give to me a step by step instruction, with basic english...

[Molitor]

So save the image as bin/cue (it'll keep the CDA tracks), add the patch to the .bin file and burn it to a CD.

[Shattered]

You could use one of the imaging tools out there, like PowerISO, MagicISO, UltraISO etc. etc. Not sure if they keep the audio tracks intact when you add something.

[rastan saga]

So save the image as bin/cue (it'll keep the CDA tracks), add the patch to the .bin file and burn it to a CD

Molitor, when you find a time, can you do this for me as before you did for others ( Panic In Park, Congo etc... ). I want only "Ubik CD1" with added SECOND -411.69 KB- patch ( http://www.old-games.ru/game/download/2252.html ) and CD tracks. I'm not sure I can do that, because I tried this before and burned a lot of CD but no luck.

[Molitor]

Do you want a image with the patch integrated in the folder or do you want a custom installer that automatically extract the patched files?

[rastan saga]

I think image with the patch option better than custom installer option for this case. Actually only important thing is CDA tracks. Interesting but without CDA even the game won't start, so without them the image is useless.

How can you make this? Please add a "basic" info for me because I have many other CDA games which needed patches. Requiem, Redline, The Devil Inside etc... If I can integrate the patches into these games I can add them to my collection. Otherwise they are useless for me. Yeah, I'm an obsessive person

Thank you very much Molitor.

[Shattered]

Some posts ago I gave you advice on how to edit images. Did you try it?

[rastan saga]

Some posts ago I gave you advice on how to edit images. Did you try it?

Shattered,
No I did not use your offerings, you know I don't want install 3rd party programs if I don't need them so much. But I tried Nero's capability and fail. At least for me failed...

... why because I need "step by step" information, not just "use this or that tool". I need "how can I use these things". You know very well too, I'm not a computer guru and my english is not enough for many things as this CDA incident. I want something like that for example;

Step 1-Open PoweISO
Step 2-Select this
Step 3-Click that etc etc.

Once I have some computer genius friends and they solve all of my hardware-software problems but now I'm alone and learning.

[Molitor]

Learning is the best thing to do

I dunno the procedure with Nero, I always use MagicISO. You can get the freeware limited version (because there's no limits for the bin/cue files) or the full one in our tools section.

1/ Open MagicISO and in the menu select Tools --> Convert...
In "Source file", select the original image (here I use Egon's images)
Select "BIN image file" as output format
And set the output to another folder.

Start conversion.

2/ Open your new .bin file in MagicISO.
On the bottom of the window go to your patches folder location.
On the top of the window (in the image area), make a right click --> New folder.... In my example I call it Extras.
Now Drag and drop the patch file from the bottom to the top of the window, like this:

(I also included the patches Egon submitted).

3/Go to File --> Save...
The program calculates the CRC, it may be long.
So you now have a .bin image with the patches included.
If you open your new .cue file with an editor, you can see the tracks were conserved:

Code: Select all

FILE "UBIK1_3.bin" BINARY
REM SESSION 01
   TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
     INDEX 01 00:00:00
   TRACK 02 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 37:55:36
   TRACK 03 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 39:54:28
   TRACK 04 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 41:56:61
   TRACK 05 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 43:52:55
   TRACK 06 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 45:46:69
   TRACK 07 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 47:43:16
   TRACK 08 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 49:43:30
   TRACK 09 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 51:43:58
   TRACK 10 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 53:42:38
   TRACK 11 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 55:42:33
   TRACK 12 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 57:42:31
   TRACK 13 AUDIO
     INDEX 01 59:23:25

4/ Burn your .bin/.cue file to a CD

If you insert your burned CD in your computer, you can see the Extras folder we created:[/color]



Well done

Install your game, apply patches and enjoy the music

[rastan saga]

This is why I was needed step by step instruction. It is a complex thing for newbies like me.

Best regards Molitor, you are another OK guy in here

[Shattered]

No I did not use your offerings, you know I don't want install 3rd party programs if I don't need them so much.

Fair enough, but you could have said so before. Maybe you didn't mean to, but now it looks like you've just ignored someone's advice. That doesn't come over very polite.

Once I have some computer genius friends and they solve all of my hardware-software problems but now I'm alone and learning.

I hope you realize the best way to learn is by searching, reading and trying things yourself and not to expect everything brought to you on a plate.

Step 1-Open PoweISO
Step 2-Select this
Step 3-Click that etc etc.

That's about everything you need to do. There's not much more to it. Those tools are very easy to use, so you don't need to be an expert.

Anyway, UltraISO is another way to do it. I can confirm the audio tracks are kept intact after adding extra files.

[rastan saga]

"Fair enough, but you could have said so before. Maybe you didn't mean to, but now it looks like you've just ignored someone's advice. That doesn't come over very polite"
--- Language barrier, again... Man, you COMPLETELY misunderstand or you want misunderstand, but nevermind I got bored. Because of this I don't want write anything to this forum. But don't worry Shattered, soon I leave this forum forever or I never post anything, like many others...

"I hope you realize the best way to learn is by searching, reading and trying things yourself and not to expect everything brought to you on a plate"
--- Almost everytime I'm very polite but with this sentence now you are a disrespectful guy. Because you don't recognize me. I'm 40 years old and no one give any shit to me on a golden plate, never. All my life was a completely and lonely combat, intellectual and physical ways. Actually you have no idea about me but you dare talk about me and this is an unpolite behaviour, really.
... and I told you before this is not my area and be honest I don't care. I don't like computers, I'm not a technology addicted guy. I am playing games for their storylines and interactivity. And they are piece of art for me, therefore I collected them. I do not want to know technical things which I do not interest. I ask to you from your knowledge, if you want give to me an advice it's OK but if not at least don't be a c ocksure and don't give so called "life lessons" to anyone. Hey dude, life is my main video game but a serious game... You must take this number one lesson from life; everyone should know their limits.

"Those tools are very easy to use, so you don't need to be an expert"
--- Besides I don't need to be an expert. This is internet, I searched a step by step info about CDA and I found it from here. Thanks again to Molitor for this "less talk much work" solution.

[Shattered]

You asked for help, received answers from two people and then responded to only one. You should be grateful to everyone who offers to help out and at least give some acknowledgement. This has nothing to do with a language barrier.

BTW.: you were the one who asked what tool could be used for the job but later indicated you didn't want to install 3rd party programs. This also doesn't make any sense.

Molitor, when you find a time, can you do this for me as before you did for others ( Panic In Park, Congo etc... ). I want only "Ubik CD1" with added SECOND -411.69 KB- patch and CD tracks.

This was your first reaction after Molitor's and my suggestions. Not a request for more information but one for Molitor to do all the work for you (incl. uploading). How's that for wanting things served on a plate?

...and I told you before this is not my area and be honest I don't care.
I do not want to know technical things which I do not interest.

This contradicts your earlier statement about "I'm alone and learning". This clearly shows you're not willing to learn anything. Well, then don't expect many people willing to help you either.

Actually you have no idea about me but you dare talk about me and this is an unpolite behaviour, really.

True, I don't know you or your life's history, which is of no concern to me. But as a moderator I'm concerned with your reactions and behaviour on this forum, of which you have been warned before. The fact you always take things personal or that you can't handle criticism is your problem. This is no excuse for using bad language. I can only suggest you to work on that.

But don't worry Shattered, soon I leave this forum forever or I never post anything, like many others...

Many people will come and go for various reasons, as is the case on any forum on the net.

Thread closed for now.

[Baraka]

rastan saga, this is a final warning: change your attitude at once or face the consequences!